Is the version of hadith thaqalayn ‘Kitabullah wa sunnati’ weak?

Answering-Ansar (which has shifted its website to shiapen.com) says:

As for Ibn al-Hashimi’s version to the ‘Quran and AhlulBayt’ version of Hadith Thaqlayn and his spontaneous citation of ‘Quran and Sunnah’ version, we would like to advance the words of present day Salafi scholar Shaykh Hassan bin Farhan al-Maliki who in his book “Qeraah fi Kutub al-Aqaed”, page 71 stated:

(…كتاب الله وسنتي) وهو حديث ضعيف عند محققي أهل السنة

“(…The book of Allah and my Sunnah) this is a weak tradition according to scholars of Ahle Sunnah”

 

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This Shaykh Hassan bin Farhan al Maliki is an old friend of Rawafidh, and the Muslims don’t give him 1% credibility in the science of hadith. Now lets turn our attention to whether this version of hadith thaqalayn is weak or not.

The Prophet (saww) said :

خلفت فيكم شيئين لن تضلوا بعدهما; كتاب الله و سنتي, و لن يفترقا حتى يردا على الحوض

I have left among you two things after which none of you will go astray; the Book of Allah and my Sunnah, and they will never separate until they return to me at the pond.

This version of hadith thaqalayn is present in the following books.
Mustadrak al Hakim
Kinzul Ummal by Ali al Muttaqi al hindi
Mishkat al Masabih by Tibrizi
Jami al Saghir by Imam Suyuti
Sunan by Imam Darqutni
Sunan al Kubra by Imam Baihaqi (two different asnaad)
Muwatta by Imam Malik
al-aitqad  by Abul Qasim
al Targheeb by Ibn Shaheen

Imam Hakim has graded it sahih, Imam Dhahabi remained silent in talkhis so it shows his approval, and Shaikh Albani and Ibn Hazm (in al ahkam) also authenticated it.

Now lets look at Shia books

We read in al Kafi
عدة من أصحابنا، عن أحمد بن محمد بن خالد، عن أبيه، عن النضر بن سويد، عن يحيى الحلبي، عن أيوب بن الحر قال: سمعت أبا عبد الله عليه السلام يقول: كل شئ مردود إلى الكتاب والسنة
A number of our people has narrated from Ahmad ibn Muhammad ibn Khalid from his father  from al-Nadr ibn Suwayd from Yahya al-Halab from Ayyub ibn al-Hurr who has said the  following.  “Abu ‘Abdallah (a.s.) has said, ‘Everything must be referred to the holy Quran and the  Sunnah”

al Kafi, Vol. 1, p. 69

Majlisi has graded it sahih

This sahih tradition from al-kafi shows that even the traditions of ahlelbayt should be referred to Quran and Sunnah, so from this,we learn that sunnah is the primary thing, and ahlelbayt’s narration is to be verified with the sunnah. If it is in agreement with the sunnah, we should accept it, otherwise, we should discard the sayings of ahlelbayt as well since the primary thing is Quran and Sunnah.

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  • Defending-Islam  On December 19, 2012 at 1:14 pm

    Salam Alaykum,

    I just wanted to mention one thing, which is that even if some of the ‘Ulama have taken this exact narration as weak, they would still say that the meaning is definitely proven by, among other things, the clear Qur’anic Ayaat. So there is no proof against them for this matter, since following the Sunnah is established by the Tawaatur of the Qur’anic Ayahs (at the very least, if we were to give the greatest lenience to the Shias in this respect).

  • Suvi  On April 16, 2013 at 9:44 pm

    Well using only half the text is your old trick to prove your points 🙂
    .
    Al-Kafi – Vol. 1 – H 199 – Ch. 22 – H 3
    .
    A number of our people has narrated from Ahmad ibn Muhammad ibn Khalid from his father from al-Nadr ibn Suwayd from Yahya al-Halab from Ayyub ibn al-Hurr who has said the following.
    “Abu ‘Abdallah (a.s.) has said, ‘Everything must be referred to the holy Quran and the Sunnah, the noble traditions of the holy Prophet (s.a.) and any Hadith that does not agree with the holy Quran it is a useless statement.’”
    .
    Here the sunnah is not specified. The motive was only to tell people not to do such things which have wrongly attributed to Prophet(s.a.w.w) and his sunnah.

    • abdullah  On April 18, 2013 at 12:31 pm

      How come you arrive at the conclusion that Sunnah is not specified here? The word Sunnah is clearly mentioned in this shia hadith, what more specification does it require? And how come you arrive at the conclusion that its motive was ‘only to tell people not to do such things which have wrongly attributed to Prophet (s.a.w.w) and his sunnah’? Your explanations are ridiculous and totally wishful thinking, nothing else.

      • Suvi  On April 19, 2013 at 9:43 pm

        First of all – A big laughter 😀
        .
        2nd a question – Why didn’t you moderated/accepted my other two comments and replayed them 😀
        .
        3rd – I know all this because this text is from my book 😀
        .
        4th – Sunnah doesn’t only mean you people or Ahl-e-Sunnah or your group – Sunnah is the ways of the Prophet(s.a.w.w) and He(s.a.w.w) was our prophet also. So there is no need to get over-excited our this text. And our sources of sunnah practices are also different and I give 100% surety that we perform and act upon the sunnah more than the people who call them Ahl-e-Sunnah 😀 We pray 51 rakaat in 24 hours – 17 farz and 34 sunnah while you only pray 34 rakaat in 24 hours – 17 farz and 17 sunnah – In similar way many other things prove that Shi’a are the real Ahl-e-Sunnah 😀
        .
        Clearly, no one is suggesting that the Sunnah of the Prophet(s.a.w.w) should not be followed. The Prophet(s.a.w.w) Wished For The Muslims To Refer To His Ahl-ul-Bait(a.s) As A Reliable, Pure And Inerrant Source For His Sunnah 🙂

      • abdullah  On April 20, 2013 at 3:14 pm

        I didn’t approve your other two comments because they were crap like your latest comment.

      • Suvi  On April 22, 2013 at 8:06 pm

        We both knew that your forehead got sweated reading those comments – That is why you didn’t approved them 😀

  • abdullah  On April 23, 2013 at 10:15 am

    Everyone has come to know that your comments are nothing else but crap

  • Slave of Imam Mahdi(atjfs)  On July 11, 2013 at 10:51 am

    I have left among you two things after
    which none of you will go astray; the
    Book of Allah and my Sunnah, and they
    will never separate until they return to
    me at the pond.

    There are four sources of abov Hadith….All the hadiths contain weak narrators

    Jus giving one ref:-

    In mustadrak al hakim…..It contains a weak a narrator in its chain ”Abu Uways” …read…(al hafiz al mazzi’s… Tahdib Al Kamal vol:3 page:127)
    2. (ibn hajr Asqalani fatah al bari Sharah Sahih bukhari page: 391, )dar al maref print.

    More over…..

    ”khibal AllaH wa Itrahti Ahlulbaiti” is a MUTAWATIR hadith narrated by more than 20 COMPANIANS….read…#sawaiq Al muhriq.

  • Slave of Imam Mahdi(atjfs)  On July 11, 2013 at 11:26 am

    For Tradition of Al Kafi

    Read this u vl get to kno the actual meaning of word ‘SUNNAH’ there:

    ”….. I asked Imam abu
    ‘Abd Allah, recipient of divine
    supreme covenant, about the
    differences in Hadith narrated
    from people whom we trust
    and also from people we do
    not trust. The Imam replied,
    ‘If you find a Hadith with
    evidence in the Holy Quran to
    support it or a Hadith of the
    Messenger of Allah (you may
    follow it) . OTHERWISE, you
    follow the one that has come
    to you through the
    trustworthy narrator .’”

    Source:

    Al-Kulaynee, Al-Kaafi, vol. 1,
    ch. 22, pg. 69, hadeeth # 2

  • Muslim  On June 14, 2014 at 2:29 pm

    We don’t really need a Hadith for Quran and Sunnah as following the Quran and Sunnah is established in the Quran.

    Anyways, read this Hadith in Sahih Bukhari about Quran and Sunnah:

    سَمِعْتُ حُذَيْفَةَ، يَقُولُ حَدَّثَنَا رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ “‏ أَنَّ الأَمَانَةَ نَزَلَتْ مِنَ السَّمَاءِ فِي جَذْرِ قُلُوبِ الرِّجَالِ، وَنَزَلَ الْقُرْآنُ فَقَرَءُوا الْقُرْآنَ وَعَلِمُوا مِنَ السُّنَّةِ ‏”‏‏.‏

    Narrated Hudhaifa:
    Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) said to us, “Honesty descended from the Heavens and settled in the roots of the hearts of men (faithful believers), and then the Qur’an was revealed and the people read the Qur’an, (and learnt it from it) and also learnt it from the Sunna.” Both Qur’an and Sunna strengthened their (the faithful believers’) honesty. (See Hadith No. 208)

    http://sunnah.com/bukhari/96/9

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